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Ker so nas pri prejšnji Covid gripi kar lepo prestrašili, jih gremo tokrat malo bolj od začetka spremljat. Kaj pravijo mediji, kaj pravi znanost, in kaj si mislimo mi o tem.

 

Gremo lepo od začetka.

 

Reuters poroča da je v Mehiki 1 oseba umrla od ptičje gripe. Članek:

 

https://www.reuters....ico-2024-06-05/

 

Meni zanimnivi detajli:

 

Pomnimo da je oseba preminula 24 aprila, zakaj so toliko časa čakali da o tem poročajo nimam pojma. Pomemben insert v članku:

 

The victim had no history of exposure to poultry or other animals but had multiple underlying medical conditions and had been bedridden for three weeks, for other reasons, prior to the onset of acute symptoms, the WHO said.
Mexico's health ministry said the person had chronic kidney disease and type 2 diabetes.
Ok se pravi človek je 3  tedne ležal v bolnici, ni bil v stiku s perutnino ali drugimi živalmi, imel je kronično bolezen ledvic in diabetes tipa 2. 
Ok, kako vraga je potem staknil ptičjo gripo če ni bil v stiku s perutnino in je imel dokaj resne zdravstvene težave. Bil je 3 tedne v postelji in za tem na žalost umrl. In to je sedaj ptičja gripa?
Ok, gremo dalje. Finska se že pripravlja na cepljenje izbranih skupin ljudi proti ptičji gripi, pričakujejo 20.000 doz da pridejo v državo.
“The concern here is about the animal-human interface,” said Marc Lacey, the global executive director for pandemic at CSL Seqirus, the maker of several H5 vaccines, including the one Finland is planning on using.
Cepivo proizvaja US firma imenovana CSL Seqirus.
Splošno o cepivu:
Pa poglejmo kaj pravi package leaflet o tem cepivu:
Aja, nič. Samo piše package leaflet, in da se nahaja v embalaži od cepiva.
Pa da ne bo tole brez dokumenta, imam tole.
Kaj pametnega piše notri? 
Meni pomembne zadeve:
There is no immune correlate of protection established for influenza A caused by H5 subtypes. Based on humoral immune responses to Zoonotic Influenza Vaccine H5N1, after two doses a protective immune response may not be elicited in all vaccinees.
Ok kaj pa je ta pesky cop (correlate of protection)?
A correlate of protection (CoP) is an immune function that correlates with and may be biologically responsible for vaccine-induced efficacy. The literature on this subject has grown considerably since it was identified as an important issue in vaccinology
Se pravi če prav razumem, CoP dokazuje da cepivo dejansko deluje, se pravi da z cepljenjem dobiš določeno raven zaščite. Se pravi to cepivo tega ne nudi. Kjut.
Ko vam bodo trdili da je cepivo varno za nosečnice:
No data are available regarding the use of Zoonotic Influenza Vaccine Seqirus H5N8 during pregnancy.
Gremo dalje.
No postmarketing surveillance data are available for Zoonotic Influenza Vaccine Seqirus H5N8
Ok to ima smisu, zadeva je nova, seveda da ne bodo imel post marketing surveillance podatkov.
Hmalu pod tem zapisom pa navajajo stranske učinke prejšnjega cepiva za H1N1, ki naj bi bil zelo podoben temu cepivu:
No postmarketing surveillance data are available for Zoonotic Influenza Vaccine Seqirus H5N8. The following adverse events were reported from postmarketing- surveillance with an H1N1 pandemic vaccine, similar to Zoonotic Influenza Vaccine Seqirus H5N8 and containing the same amount of adjuvant MF59C.1, approved for use in children 6 months of age and above, adults and the elderly: Blood and lymphatic system disorders Lymphadenopathy. Immune system disorders Allergic reactions, anaphylaxis including dyspnoea, bronchospasm, laryngeal oedema, in rare cases leading to shock. Nervous system disorders Headache, dizziness, somnolence, syncope. Neurological disorders, such as neuralgia, paraesthesia, convulsions and neuritis. Cardiac disorders Palpitation, tachycardia. Respiratory disorders Cough. Gastrointestinal disorders Gastrointestinal disorders such as nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain and diarrhoea. Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders Generalised skin reactions including pruritus, urticaria or non-specific rash, angioedema. Muscoskeletal, connective tissue and bone disorders Muscular weakness, pain in extremities. General disorders and administration site conditions Asthenia. The following additional adverse events were reported from post-marketing surveillance with seasonal non-adjuvanted trivalent vaccines in all age groups and a seasonal trivalent MF59-adjuvanted subunit influenza vaccine approved for use in elderly individuals 65 years of age and older: Blood and lymphatic system disorders Thrombocytopenia (in some cases reversible platelet counts less than 5000 mm3 ). Nervous system disorders Neurological disorders, such as encephalomyelitis, and Guillain Barré syndrome. Vascular disorders Vasculitis which may be associated with transient renal involvement. Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders Erythema multiforme. General disorders and administration site conditions Extensive swelling of injected limb lasting more than one week, injection-site cellulitis-like reaction (some cases of swelling, pain, and redness extending more than 10 cm and lasting more than 1 week)
Kaj da vam rečem...če še enkrat padete na slogan varno in učinkovito, potem ni več besed ki bi vas prepričale v drugačno razmišljanje.
Bom temo posodablju sproti ko najdem nove in relevantne zadeve, ampak zaenkrat mi spet tole deluje kot navadn jumpscare in čisto nič drugega.
Kaj vi menite o tem?
 
 
 

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#2

Kaj vi menite o tem?

 

Menimo da je premalo smrtonosna, bojo morali najt kaj drugega, ker folk na to ne bo nasedel niti približno, kot so nasedli na virus Made in PRC by USA.


Srce lahko včasih odkleneš tudi tako, da ključ vtakneš eno nadstropje nižje.

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res bi bila škoda da bi se tičja gripa razpasla med krave in pišance in bi moralo potem kup živali v zakol... še dobro da znamo ščurke pa kobilice spremenit v meso, drugače bi nas lahk tale tičja gripa vse pojeb... :)

 

drgač pa; https://x.com/PeterS...114530582401521

in s takimi cigani bomo potem podpisovali zavezujoče sporazume...



Urejal filipo, 07.06.2024, 22:47.


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#4

Kaj menim o tem?

 

Da nisem strokovnjak za katerekoli viruse in bolezni ter hkrati nisem človek, ki se bo na zalogo sekiral za karkoli.

 

Življenje je lepo, če si takšnega narediš, če samega sebe napsihiraš do maksimuma, potem kvečjemu postaneš totalni psiho, ne boš pa opazil lepot življenja in ne boš se imel fajn.

 

To je moje mnenje in pa nasvet; čimveč prostega časa preživeti z zunanjimi aktivnostimi, v naravi. :)


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International bird flu summit, letos oktobra. Vas to kaj spomne na Event 201?

 

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