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Kot pravim, sem že skoraj da mesec dni v New Orleansu pa še nisem zasledil tega :)
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Mogoče komu kdaj prav pride :ok2

Know Your Rights With Police Officers

http://policecrimes.com/police.html

What makes police officers and the government powerless? When the American people know their rights!


Police officers hate to hear these word:

"Am I free to go?"
"I'm going to remain silent."

"I don't consent to a search."


You have rights at a traffic stop or during any police encounter with a police officer. Learn what your rights are and use them before you loose them!
1. Your Safety - When being pulled over start by putting the police officer at ease. Pull over to a safe place, turn off your ignition, stay in the car and keep your hands on the steering wheel. At night turn on the interior light. Keep your license, registration and proof of insurance close by like in your "sun visor."

Be courteous, stay calm, smile and don't complain. Show respect and say things like "sir and no sir." Never bad-mouth a police officer, stay in control of your words, body language and your emotions. Keep your hands where the police officer can see them. Never touch a police officer and never run away!

2. Remain Silent Never Talk To A Police Officer - The Supreme Court says you should never talk to a police officer even if you're not under arrest. The Supreme Court ruled you must speak up and say to the police officer "I'm going to remain silent" and then keep your mouth shut. How can you be falsely accused and charged with a crime if you don't say anything? Never talk to a police officer before or after you’ve been arrested. Anything you say or do can and will be used against you at anytime by the police and the government. If you can keep your mouth shut, you might come out ahead more than you expected.

3. Just Say NO to Police Searches! - If a police officer didn't need your permission to search, he wouldn't be asking you. Never give permission for a police officer to search you, your car or your home. If a police officer does search you, don't resist and keep saying "I don't consent to this search." Police are allowed to do a "pat down" of your body and look for weapons, but they're not allowed to go inside your pockets.

4. Am I Free to Go? - As soon as the police officer ask you a question ask him, "Am I free to go?" You have to ask if you're "free to go," otherwise the police officer will think that you're voluntarily staying around to talk with him. If the police officer says you're being detained or arrested tell the police officer "I'm going to remain silent."



Anything You Say Can And Will Be Used Against You!
Police officers will be videotaping or audio recording you "cops carry mics and small video cameras" and this is why you must NEVER talk to the police officer. You have every right NOT to talk to a police officer and you should NOT talk to a police officer unless you have first consulted with a lawyer and that lawyer has advised you differently. Police officers depend on fear and intimidation to get what they want from you and this includes giving up your rights. The government made a law that allows police officers to lie to American citizens. This is another reason not to trust the police or the Federal government who are "the real terrorists."

Never voluntarily talk to a police officer, there's no such thing as a "friendly chat." Let the police officer do all the talking and you stay silent. The Supreme Court has ruled that you should NOT talk to a police officer even if you have NOT been arrested. You must say out loud "I'm going to remain silent." It can be very dangerous to talk to a police officer or a Federal Agent. Innocent people have talked to a police officer and ended up in jail and prison all because they spoke to a police officer without an attorney before they were arrested.

Police officers have the same right as you, "Freedom of Speech." Police may ask you anything they want, but you should never answer any of their questions. Don't let the police officer try and persuade you to talk! Say something like "I'm sorry, I don't have time to talk right now." If the cop insists on talking to you, ask him "Am I free to go?" The police officer may not like when you refuse to talk to him and challenge you with words like, "If you don't have anything to hide, then why won't you speak with me? Say to the officer again "I told you I don't have time to talk to you right now, Am I free to go?" If you forget or the police officer tricks you into talking, it's okay just start over again and tell the police officer "I'm going to remain silent."

The Supreme Court has ruled that if a police officer doesn't force you to do something, then you're doing it "voluntarily." This means if the police officer starts being a bully, intimidating you and you do what the cop "ask" because you're "afraid" the court ruled you still have done it voluntarily. (Florida v. Bostick, 1991) If you do what the police officer "ask you to do" such as allowing him to search your car or answer any of his questions, you're "voluntarily" complying with his "requests." So don't comply just keep your mouth shut unless you say "Am I Free to Go?" or "I don't consent to a search."

Be as nice as possible to the police officer, but stand your ground on your rights! Where do some of your rights come from? Read the Fourth and Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

Traffic Stops and Your Rights with Police Officers

Keep your license, registration and proof of insurance in an easily accessible place, like your sun visor. When pulled over by a police officer stay in the car, turn on the interior lights and keep your hands on the steering wheel. Sit still, relax and wait for the officer to come to you. Any sudden movements or ducking down could get you shot.

Don't forget during traffic stops the police are videotaping you, this is why you must NOT talk to the police officer. Police officers like to ask the first question and that's usually, "hello do you know why I stopped you today? Do you know how fast you were going?" The police officer is trying to get you to do two things, admit that you committed a traffic violation and to get you to "voluntarily" start a conversation with him. Remember the police officer is not your friend and should not be trusted! The only thing you need to say is "I'm going to remain silent or am I free to go?"

The police officer might start asking you personal questions such as "where are you going, where have you been and who did you see, ect." At that point it's the perfect time to exercise your rights by asking the police officer "AM I FREE TO GO?" There's NO legal requirement that American citizens provide information about their comings and goings to an American police officer. It's none of the police officers damn business! Keep asking the police officer "AM I FREE TO GO?" You have to speak up and verbally ask the police officer if you're allowed to leave, otherwise the cops and the courts will assume that you wanted to stay and talk to the police officer on your own free will.

Passengers traveling in your vehicle need to know their rights as well. They have the same right NOT to talk to a police officer and the right to refuse a search "unless it's a 'pat down' for weapons." The police sometimes will separate the passengers from each other and ask questions to see if their stories match. All passengers should always give the same answer and say, "I'm going to remain silent and am I free to go?" Remember you have to tell the police officer that you don't want to talk to him, it's the law!

How long can a police officer keep you pulled over "detained" during a traffic stop? The Supreme Court has made mention that no more than 15-20 minutes is a reasonable amount of time for a police officer to conduct his investigation and allow you to go FREE on your way. But you have to keep asking the police officer "AM I FREE TO GO?"

During a traffic stop a good time to ask "AM I FREE TO GO," is after the police officer has given you a "warning or a ticket" and you have signed it. Once you have signed the ticket the traffic stop is legally over says the U.S. Supreme Court. There's no law that requires you to stay and talk to the police officer or answer any questions. After you have signed the ticket and have your license you may roll up your window, start your car and leave. If you're outside the car ask the police officer, "AM I FREE TO GO?" If he says yes get in your car and leave.

Car Searches and Body Searches

A police officer wouldn't be asking you if he didn't need your permission to search. Just say no! "The right to be free from unreasonable searches is one of America's most precious First Liberties."

Police officers swore an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution and not to violate your rights against unreasonable search and seizure Fourth Amendment. Denying a police officers request to search you or your car is not an admission of guilt, it's your American right! Some police officers might say, "if you have nothing to hide, you should allow me to search." Politely say to the police officer "I don't consent to a search, am I FREE to go?"

For the safety of police officers the government allows the police to "pat down" your outer clothing to see if you have any weapons. If the police officer feels something that he believes is a weapon, he can go into your pocket and pull out the item he believes is a weapon.

A police officer may ask you or even demand that you empty your pockets, but you have the right to say "NO! AM I FREE TO GO?" There's NO law that requires you to empty your pockets when a police officer tells you to do so. The only time a police officer are allowed to be taking your personal property out of your pockets is after you have been arrested.
The police officer is allowed to handcuff you and/or detain you in his police car. Don't resist or you will be arrested! There's a big difference between being detained and being arrested. Say nothing in the police car! Police will be recording your conversation inside the police car, say nothing to your friend and don't talk to the police officers inside the car!

If you are arrested and your car is towed, the police are allowed to take an "inventory" of the items in your car. If anything is found that's illegal in your vehicle, the police will get a warrant from a judge and then charge you with another crime.



Never Open Your Door At Home If A Police Officer Knocks!

If the police knock on your door at home, there's no law that says you have to open your door to police officers. "Don't worry if the cops have a search warrant, they'll kick down your door before they knock." * There is NO law that requires you to open your door to a police officer.* Don't open your door with the chain-lock on either, police officers will shove their way in. Simply shout to the police officers "I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY" or just don't say anything at all.

Guest and roommates staying in your home/apartment/dorm need to be told of their rights and not to open the door to a police officer or invite a police officer into your home without your permission. Police officers are like vampires, they need your permission to come into your home.

Never agree to go to the police station if the police want to question you. Just say, "I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY."

* In some emergency situations (for example when someone is screaming for help from inside your home, police are chasing someone into your home, police see a felony being committed or if someone has called 911 from inside your house) police officers are allowed to enter and search your home without a warrant.

Teenagers have rights also, if you're under 18 click here. If your children don't know their rights and they go talking to a teacher, school principal, police officer or a Federal agent without an attorney, it could cost your family dearly and change the lives of your family forever!



Dealing With a Police Officer In Public

NEVER give consent to a police officer and allow for a conversation to start. If a police officer stops you and ask to speak with you, you're perfectly within your rights to say "I do not wish to speak with you," then say good-bye. At this point you should be free to leave, but the police officer might ask for your identification. If you have identification on you, tell the officer where it's at and ask permission to reach for it. "In some states you're not required to show an I.D. unless the police officer has reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime, Know the laws of your state!"

The police officer might start asking you questions, at this point you may ask the officer "Am I Free to Go?" The police officer may not like this and may challenge you with words like, "If you have nothing to hide, why won't you speak to me?" Simply say "I'm going to remain silent."

Police officers need your permission to have a conversation. There is NO law that says you have tell a police officer where you are going or where you have been, but you must tell the police officer "I'm going to remain silent."



Probable Cause

A police officer has no right to detain you unless there exist reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime or traffic violation. However a police officer is always allowed to initiate a "voluntary" conversation with you. You always have the right not to talk or answer any questions a police officer ask you. Just tell the police officer, "I'm going to remain silent."

Under the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, police may engage in "reasonable" searches and seizures. To prove that a search is reasonable the police generally must show that it's more likely than not that a crime has occurred and that if a search is conducted it's probable that the police officer will find evidence of a crime. This is "probable cause."

Police may use first hand information or tips from an informant "snitch" to justify the need to search your property or you. If an informant's information is used, the police must prove that the information is reliable under the circumstances to a judge.

Here's a case when several police officers took the word of a "snitch," claiming he knew where a "drug dealer" lived. Corrupt police officers in Houston Texas took it upon themselves to go to this house that the snitch had "picked at random. The Police officers kicked in the front door at 1:30 in the morning and executed an innocent man defending his castle. Police never bothered to get a warrant from a judge. The aftermath was... Police Officers In Texas Are Allowed to Murder Innocent People and Get Away With It



Should We Trust Police Officers?

Police officers allowed to lie to you. The Supreme Court has ruled police officers can lie to the American people. Police officers are trained at lying, twisting words and being manipulative. Police officers and other law enforcement agents are very skilled at getting information from people. So don't try to "out smart" a police officer and don't try being a "smooth talker" because you will loose! If you can keep your mouth shut, you just might come out ahead more than you expected.

Teach your children that they must call a parent for permission before they're allowed to talk to police officer. Remember police officers are trained to put your child at ease and build trust. A police officers job is to find, arrest and help convict a suspect and that suspect could be your child!

Although police officers may seem nice and pretend to be on your side they want to learn your habits, opinions, and affiliations of other people not suspected of wrongdoing. Don't try to answer a police officers questions, it can be very dangerous! You can never tell how a seemingly harmless bit of information that you give to a police officer might be used and misconstrued to hurt you, your family or someone else. Also keep in mind that lying to a federal agent is a Federal crime. "That's why Martha Stewart went to prison, not for insider trading but for lying to a Federal Agent." If a Federal Agent ask you questions you still have the right not to answer any questions.



Lies Police Officers Will Say To Get You to Talk

There's many ways a police officer can LIE and trick you into talking. It's always safe to say the Magic Words: "Am I free to go? I'm going to remain silent and I want a lawyer."

Police officer's are lying pieces of shit. Teach your children not to trust cops and make your kids aware that police officers are LIARS and not to talk to them.

The following are common lie's police use when they're trying to get you to talk:

* "You will have to stay here and answer my questions" or "You're not leaving until I find out what I want to know."

* "I have evidence on you, so tell me what I want to know or else." (Police can fabricate fake evidence to convince you to tell them what they want to know.)

* "You're not a suspect, were simply investigating here. Help us understand what happened and then you may leave."

* "If you don't answer my questions, I won't have any choice but to take you to jail."

* "If you don't answer these questions, you'll be charged with resisting arrest, obstruction of justice or hindering an investigation."

* "Your friend has told his side of the story and it's not looking good for you, anything you want to tell me? I can go easy on you.


If The Police Arrest You


"I WILL NOT TALK UNTIL I HAVE A LAWYER!"

* Don't answer any questions the police ask you, (except for your name, address and age.) Any other questions the police officer ask you, just say I want to talk to a lawyer.

* Police officers don't always have to read to you the Miranda Rights after you've been arrested. If you "voluntarily" talk to a police officer, the police officer doesn't have to read your Miranda Rights. Talking to a police officer at anytime can be very dangerous!

* Never talk to other jail inmates about your case.

* Within a reasonable amount of time after you have been arrested and booked, the cops should allow you to make a local phone call to a lawyer, bail bondsman, relative or any other person you choose. The police can not listen to your phone call if you're talking to your lawyer.

* The longest you can be held in jail is 72 hours. If you get arrested on a 3 day weekend you may not see the judge until Tuesday morning. Otherwise you will usually get out of jail in 4 to 24 hours if you can make bond.

* If you're on probation or parole tell your P.O. you've been arrested and don't say anything else.



Urejal Rottie, 11.11.2013, 13:27.

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#23

"Don't worry if the cops have a search warrant, they'll kick down your door before they knock."

:laugh
Police officers are like vampires, they need your permission to come into your home.
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Ima pa jajca tkole :sex policaje ... sploh nato, da je v USA velik policajev, ki radi streljajo folk preventivno. :ok2


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Rottiie - kako je pa pri nas? Predvidevam, da pri nas nimamo takih pravic
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Rottiie - kako je pa pri nas? Predvidevam, da pri nas nimamo takih pravic


Kolker vem, če ima policist "razlog za preverjanje identitete", potem se temu ne moreš izogniti ... torej na check pointu, kjer iščejo recimo tuje teroriste, se v SLO ne moreš izvleči na način, kot se je ta američan.

http://www.uradni-li...ntent?id=111944

Ugotavljanje identitete

40. člen

(ugotavljanje identitete)

(1) Policisti smejo ugotavljati identiteto osebe, ki:

– jo je treba privesti ali pridržati;

– vstopa v območje, kraj, prostor, objekt ali okoliš, na katerem je prepovedano ali omejeno gibanje, ali se tam nahaja;

– je na območju, v kraju ali objektu, v katerem se izvajajo ukrepi za iskanje ali izsleditev storilca kaznivega dejanja ali prekrška ali predmetov in sledi, ki so pomembni za kazenski postopek ali postopek o prekršku;

– z obnašanjem, ravnanjem ali zadrževanjem na določenem kraju ali ob določenem času vzbuja sum, da bo storila, izvršuje ali je storila kaznivo dejanje ali prekršek;

– je po opisu podobna iskani osebi;

– z obnašanjem, ravnanjem ali zadrževanjem na določenem kraju ali v določenem času vzbuja sum, da je otrok ali mladoletnik na begu od doma ali iz vzgojno-varstvene ustanove ali se je izgubil;

– je očitno nebogljena in je ugotavljanje identitete nujno za zagotovitev pomoči;

– bi lahko dala koristne podatke za opravljanje policijskih nalog.

(2) Za zadrževanje na določenem kraju ali v določenem času se šteje zlasti navzočnost na javnih krajih, kjer je gibanje dovoljeno pod določenimi pogoji, v okolišu varovanih objektov ali na drugih krajih, zlasti kjer je večja dnevna, občasna ali trenutna migracija ljudi oziroma na javnem prevoznem sredstvu, če gre za varnostno tvegana območja.

(3) Policisti smejo ugotavljati identiteto osebe in posredovati njene podatke tudi na upravičeno zahtevo uradnih oseb državnih organov ter nosilcev javnih pooblastil, če je to nujno za izvajanje pooblastil teh uradnih oseb ali za zagotavljanje njihove varnosti.

(4) Policisti smejo ugotavljati identiteto osebe tudi na upravičeno zahtevo druge osebe, ki izkazuje premoženjsko in nepremoženjsko škodo, telesno poškodbo, sum storitve kaznivega dejanja ali prekrška in v podobnih primerih ter tako ugotovljene podatke posredovati upravičencu, ki izkaže pravni interes za uveljavljanje pravic pred sodnimi ali državnimi organi.

41. člen

(načini ugotavljanja identitete)

(1) Policisti ugotavljajo identiteto osebe tako, da osebo na primeren način ustavijo in ji pojasnijo razlog ustavitve ter nato zahtevajo izročitev javne listine z njeno fotografijo, ki jo je izdal državni organ, da listino pogledajo ter primerjajo in preverijo podatke v ustreznih evidencah.

(2) Če je oseba zakrita ali zamaskirana, smejo policisti zahtevati, da se odkrije, zato da lahko nedvomno ugotovijo njeno identiteto.

(3) Če policisti dvomijo o pristnosti javne listine ali je oseba nima ali identitete ni možno z gotovostjo ugotoviti, smejo ugotavljati identiteto z razgovorom, v katerem preverjajo podatke o identiteti s pomočjo podatkov iz evidenc po tem zakonu, uradnih evidenc in drugih zbirk podatkov, drugih listin, s pomočjo drugih oseb ali na drugem kraju ali na način, ki ga predlaga oseba, če je varen in razumen.

(4) Če policisti ne morejo ugotoviti identitete osebe, jo smejo privesti v policijske prostore in izvesti identifikacijski postopek.

(5) Policisti smejo vzeti prstne odtise in odtise dlani osebi, ki je poskušala nezakonito prestopiti ali je nezakonito prestopila državno mejo, in osebi, katere identitete ni mogoče ugotoviti na drug način. Osebo smejo policisti tudi fotografirati, zapisati njen osebni opis in fotografijo in njen osebni opis objaviti.

(6) Zaradi ugotovitve identitete pogrešane osebe in identifikacije najdenega trupla smejo policisti poiskati in zavarovati material za identifikacijo (nosilce biološkega materiala in materiala za pridobitev odtisov prstov in dlani pogrešane osebe), ob soglasju osebe, ki je s pogrešano osebo v krvnem sorodstvu, pa tudi odvzeti bris njene ustne sluznice. Fotografijo in osebni opis pogrešane osebe in trupla smejo policisti objaviti.

42. člen

(identifikacijski postopek)

(1) Identifikacijski postopek zajema preverjanje podatkov v evidencah policije, upravnih organov in drugih zbirkah podatkov, za pridobitev katerih je policist pooblaščen z zakonom, primerjavo prstnih odtisov in odtisov dlani, fotografije in osebnega opisa osebe, brisa ustne sluznice ter druga operativna in kriminalističnotehnična opravila.

(2) Določbe prejšnjega odstavka ter petega in šestega odstavka prejšnjega člena veljajo tudi za identifikacijo trupel in pogrešan


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#27

Mamo mi bolj zaj. policaje kot Američani. Edina razlika je, da naši praktično ne smejo streljat :)
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Zanimivo pa je, kako jih zadne čase jebejo z izpušnimi plini. Prou roadblocke delajo in preverjajo če maš ok izpuste. wtf. Nekak netipično za USA.
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Zanimivo pa je, kako jih zadne čase jebejo z izpušnimi plini. Prou roadblocke delajo in preverjajo če maš ok izpuste. wtf. Nekak netipično za USA.


Mah, Američani so itak vedno šli v neke ekstreme pri prometu ... pa naj bo z ekologijo al pa omejitvami.
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Mamo mi bolj zaj. policaje kot Američani. Edina razlika je, da naši praktično ne smejo streljat :)


Ni enostavno ustrelit nekoga, še posebej če je človeško bitje.
Če gre za žival bi se še dalo preživeti, ampak ko pa gre za bitje z imenom in priimkom pa ni enostavno.

Poleg tega je zakonodaja pri nas tako izpisana in tudi praksa kaže to, da je bolje, da te storilec ustreli in prvo strelja na tebe, potem se umakneš in ko nimaš več kam streljaš.
tudi v tem primeru te obravnavajo kot da si kriv. Primer policist Matej Bobera iz streljanja v Celju. Zadeva je že 15 let na sodišču. Bil je v službi in ne v prostem času. Delodajalec, stroka in razni strokovnjaki so potrdili, da je v dani situaciji pravilno streljal in je moral. Torej naredil je vse tako kot piše v knjigi, pa je kljub temu na sodišču in se zakriva s kapuco?

Tudi sam sem imel primeru, ko sem bil primoran povleči za orožje na odprtem na železniških tirih, kjer je storilec bežal in se ni ustavil. Na enkrat se je ustavil v temi, obsijala ga je samo mesečina. Obrnil se je in je imel desno roko zatlačeno v jakno. Ni se odzival na pozive da se uleže itd... Potegnil sem orožje storilec pa se je premikal sem in tja z roko v jakni. Roke ni želel dati ven. Pokleknil sem da nebi bil lahka tarča. Menil sem da ima orožje in da študira kaj naj naredi. Odločil sem se, da bom streljal če bo potrebno vendar v noge, v najslabšem primeru pa v zgornji del telesa, čeprav stroka uči da streljaš prvo v zgornji del telesa!
Ko sem orožje repetiral, torej nabil naboj v cev in je zaklep orožja zadonel v tišini je storilec rekel samo FUCK FUCK OK OK in se je vregl na tla. Previdno sem pristopil do njega ga vklenil na hrbtu, nakar sem ugotovil, da ima pod jakno, računalniško tablico, ki jo je nekje ukradel:napaka
Orožja ni imel......., nobenega. Ko sem se 15 minut za tem usedel v policijsko vozilo sem se začel trest, kot da bi bil zunaj na -20 v kratkih hlačah. Adrenalin je popustil. V vratih sem imel Snickers - lačni zakaj bi čakali, in sem ga pojedel ter tako dvognil sladkor.
Neprijetna izkušnja.

Urejal Danijel S, 14.11.2013, 12:54.

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#31

Mogoče malo off amapak vendarle.

Danijel, po pisanju sodeč si človek na mestu, kar je prav, ker za opravljanje tvojega poklica moraš biti po mojem mnenju nadpovprečno potrpležljiv in se moraš znati kontrolirati. Vnedar mislimd a mi boš dal za prav, ko ti bom povedal, da je tudi v vaših vrstah veliko in predvsem preveč osebkov, ki mislijo da so z uniformo več kot ljudje in so enostavno prepotentni in blago rečeno nesramni. Sicer imam tudi veliko pozitivnih izkušenj s policaji, tudi če sem naredil prekršek in bi v tem trenutku ga najraje zgrizel ( policaja namreč:-D ), je njegova dolžnost in služba taka pač, da mi napiše kazen ( opozorila še nisem dobil, čeprav bi včasih še bolj zaleglo ampak pustmo to ),v takih trenutkih je vsak jezen na policaja, ker ga je ustavil, ampak še nikoli nisem bil zaradi tega neprijazen do policaja, nikoli nisem prvi začel kakršnega koli konflikta, ker vedno pozdravim in počakam da mi pova kaj je narobe ( če ni samo kontrola ), ampak sem vseeno prevečkrat doživel "izživljanje" policajev samo zato ker lahko, enkrat so bile celo grožnje in če ne bi imel policaj starejšega in očitno pametnejšega partnerja s sabo bi se zgodilo marsikaj, ampak verjemi da bi še danes živel na račun tistega policaja.

Skratka hočem povedati,d a bi mogoče lahko "normalni" policaji in predvsem vaši predstojniki naredili red med "črnimi ovcami " v vaših vrstah in bi s tem začeli uživati več spoštovanja med državljani. Pa zaboga ne bodite tako razočarani, če ne morete napisati položnice, a ni prioriteta varnost?:-D
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#32

Ni enostavno ustrelit nekoga, še posebej če je človeško bitje.
Če gre za žival bi se še dalo preživeti, ampak ko pa gre za bitje z imenom in priimkom pa ni enostavno.


Tole boljš da vzameš nazaj, ker drugače te bo @Rottie razglasil za državnega sovražnika št.1 :ok2

Bi ti dal zelenga pa ne morem. Ljudje se sploh ne zavedajo kake zgodbe mate vi policaji. Sej 95% je takih obrobnih stvari(pijana mularija, ukradeni bicikli itd.) samo v unih 5% :blackeye Pa kaj je zdej s tem policajem Bobero. Nazadnje ko sem bral o njemu so ga uni šiptarji še zmeraj lovili. A se lahko sploh prosto giba.

Jah vem ko so enkrat tle po fužinah ene lovil, najprej so se z avtom lovili, pa so se banditi zabili v ene parkirane avte, potem so pa začeli peš bežat(iz tri vratne fieste so 4-je vn zbežal v 3-eh desetinkah, res še preden so se zabil so bli zunaj :-D) no potem sta šla policaja vsak za enim, grejo za en drug blok in evo glih pritečeta pred naš blok. Jaz sem bil tako skoraj malo vesel, da je blo mal akcije za gledat v živo :-D Pač mal se policaji pa banditi lovijo. No potem pa ga je policaj dohitel, pa je bandit hotu v blok spizdit ma so bla vrata zaprta in potem ni vedu kaj je pa policaj pištolo vn potegnu, takrat pa sm se nehal smejat, ni je sicer repetiral samo nemeril vanj, vendar ni tako lepo že samo za pogledat kako nekdo meri v nekoga s pištolo. No potem se je bandit ulegel na tla pa ga je policaj uklenil.

Tako da verjamem da streljat ni kar tako. Ko je cel blok gledal to kriminalko v živo, pa smo vsi tako sproščeno gledali, pa malo kao lejga lejga beži... samo ko je pa pištolo vn povleku smo bli pa vsi tiho, pa vsi resni :ok
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#33

Kul fotke iz USA na linku - Los Angeles from 1898 till the 1960's :)

http://imgur.com/a/3TtKD

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Pa še tole ... se je malo za zamislit nad "obljubljeno deželo". :blackeye

80 is the new 60 when it comes to retirement

http://nypost.com/20...-to-retirement/

Urejal Rottie, 19.11.2013, 23:43.

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:crazy Očitno si lahko vsaj v nekaterih zveznih državah v ZDA obsojen že samo, če se voziš z avtom, ki ima vgrajene skrite predale. :napaka

DRIVER ARRESTED FOR “SECRET” CAR COMPARTMENT FULL OF NOTHING

http://filmingcops.c...22/compartment/
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#35

Imaš spet težave z ameriškimi policisti?:)

Pa še tole ... se je malo za zamislit nad "obljubljeno deželo".

Obljubljena ni že dolgo (oziroma je le še za tiste z bolj specifičnim znanjem).:ok Je pa še vedno 1000x boljša od Slovenistana. V skorajda vseh ozirih.

Urejal Beemer, 22.11.2013, 22:05.

Not only must justice be done; it must also be seen to be done.:ok V Slo -> :thumbsdown
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Če ti je 1000 x boljša od Slovenistana, kaj potem sploh še delaš gužvo tu ???
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Če ti je 1000 x boljša od Slovenistana, kaj potem sploh še delaš gužvo tu ???

Še dobro, da si dal na koncu 3 vprašaje, ki samo še poudarijo bedo tvojega brezveznega vprašanja. Dom, družina, prijatelji? Človek si v 30ih letih stke tesne vezi v domovini. Kar pa še ne pomeni, da je "the greatest place to live" sama po sebi kajne?(??) Žal ampak ekonomska svoboda in nizki davki niso niti približno na istem nivoju. Od tega dvojega pa pride še vse ostalo. Happy?:)
Lahko pa se seveda tolažim(o) s tem, da je na svetu >90% držav, ki so hudo večji poden od SLO.

Urejal Beemer, 22.11.2013, 23:07.

Not only must justice be done; it must also be seen to be done.:ok V Slo -> :thumbsdown
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To bodo pa padale odškodninske tožbe sedaj. :ok2

GOVERNMENT CHEMIST TAMPERED WITH 40,000 CASES, LOCKING COUNTLESS INNOCENT AMERICANS IN PRISON

http://filmingcops.c...cans-in-prison/

MASSACHUSETTS — In a maddening scandal that is rocking the state of Massachusetts, a government crime lab chemist has been caught intentionally forging signatures and tampering with evidence in as many as 40,000 cases, destroying the lives of countless innocent Americans.

Annie Dookhan worked as a chemist for the State of Massachusetts, and it turns out she had close relations with prosecutors.

These prosecutors were able to successfully convict innocent Americans because Dookhan would chemically taint the “evidence,” resulting in career boosts for the prosecutors while innocent men and women were torn from their families and locked in cells.

Prosecutors praised Dookhan’s work and depended on her to get the convictions they wanted.

Hundreds of “convicts” and defendents have already been released, and there are potentially thousands more waiting to be set free.


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ne morem verjet
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#40

Takole pa Detroit zgleda ... oz. vsaj zapuščeni del.







This one was filmed in December 2009 mostly, and there's some footage in here from July 2010 as well.


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